session-properties.desktop uses NoDisplay=true

http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/gnome-session/master/revision/4698

Intentional change, so marking Invalid. I guess the submitter has a point - an advanced user can always tap in 'gnome-session-properties' on the terminal and having 'Startup Applications' in the main menu is just asking for a user to accidentally turn off some important daemon or another.

Of course if you disagree then please comment back, but it's clear this isn't a 'bug' in the proper sense of the term.

Certainly I disagree - I'm somewhat an advanced user and I didn't know the exact name of the Exec, obviously I knew enough to browse to /usr/share/applications/ to start up and retrieve the exec name, ect.

Again here - on a fresh install I have 21 'startups', many that make no sense running at start up, if ever.
Considering the continuing memory issues with compiz, nvidia drivers, ect. ALL users should be able to see this config tool
(I save 100+MB at login by paring the list by disabling 11 'non-critical' apps...

Now if they actually follow thru and allow disabling the 'non-critical' apps thru g-c-c or similar fine, we'll see

is there anything in the list that you consider optional?

"is there anything in the list that you consider optional?"

Myself - after most installs -
Bluetooth Manager
Check for new hardware drivers
Disk Notifications
Evolution Alarm notify
Gnome login Sound
Personal file sharing
Print queue applet
Pulseaudio Sound System KDE routing Policy (use gnome
Remote Desktop
Ubuntuone
Update Notifier
Visual Assistance

Re-marking as new, - as seen here the list of available options in Startup Applications has been culled significantly, too much as i see, but that's just an opinion. So Startup Applications shouls again be made visible.
bug #803917

Do you realize that most of the services you listed are checking for a config key or hardware availability to start and that they will not run in all cases? Like bluetooth will not start if there is no device to manage, login sound will do nothing if the config key is turned to off, same for file sharing, same for remote desktop, etc?

This bug was fixed in the package gnome-session - 3.1.3-0ubuntu2

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gnome-session (3.1.3-0ubuntu2) oneiric; urgency=low

  * 03_display_session_capplet.patch: display the session properties capplet,
    the list is cleaned from the system services now and it can be useful
    for users who want to start softwares with the session (lp: #802218)
  * series: comment 80_new_upstream_session_dialog, the modified version never
    went in upstream git and has issues with gtk3, if the upstream dialog is
    not working fine in our desktop we should discuss how to maintain a custom
    session dialog in a better way (lp:807503)
 -- Sebastien Bacher <email address hidden> Mon, 11 Jul 2011 16:39:56 +0200

It should be added that this bug was not fixed but rather the opposite bug 803917 was fixed. Which means, many startup apps still do not show in gnome-session-properties.

Bernhard -
Actually this bug was fixed - Startup Applications is available in the session indicator and also visible in a dash search

Ah, well in that way it was fixed for me as well. But not in this way you mentioned yourself in the bug description:

"There can be no assumption that the 20 or so default enabled startup apps are suitable or useful for all so the means to adjust should be visible"

I agree with post #5 and would appreciate if those apps were optional at startup (with this menu item and without digging into the .conf files). I don't want to speak of the devil but even Windows allows this through "msconfig".

@ Sebastien Bacher (seb128)

Bluetooth Manager - My laptop doesn't have bluetooth
 Check for new hardware drivers - I use nouveau drivers
 Disk Notifications - I do myself manually
 Evolution Alarm notify - I get mails directly through gmail.
 Personal file sharing - Never use it
 Print queue applet - I have no printer
 Pulseaudio Sound System KDE routing Policy - Useless eater
 Remote Desktop - I don't know that such a service exist
 Ubuntuone - never
 Visual Assistance - Not needed

Now do you realize that most of the services I listed I don't use it and it eats up 120mb of my memory?

Those shouldn't use memory since they don't run if not activated

To give some details, a good part of the ones you listed check a key and exit so they don't run if not activated from their ui (i.e remote desktop, file sharing, hardware drivers)