Can choose language but not date formats

Bug #40669 reported by Celso Pinto
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language-selector (Ubuntu)
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I've given this a lot of though so bear with me. I'm a native Portuguese speaker, our dates are in the format of dd/mm/yyyy, our time format is HH24:MM:SS, etc. but I like keeping my system in English because when an error occurs, it's a lot easier to search for a bug report or a mailing-list message describing a similar problem.

Unfortunately, without some tweaking to system configuration files, it's impossible to configure a system that uses English GUI strings and the rest in native format. For example, in <cof>Windows</cof> I understand it's possible to change date formats, number formats, etc. independently of whatever language the system is. A good example of this is that in my workplace all our Windows boxes have the English version but all formats are local.

I've cooked up a PyGTK application, awfully similar to gnome-language-selector as you'll certainly notice, available here (http://yimports.com/~cpinto/darcsweb.cgi?r=gnome-regional-settings;a=summary) to make those changes but I feel that it would be a lot better if gnome-language-selector actually did this.

Would you care to include a tab in the notebook for users to change the data formats? Maybe an "Advanced" button that pops up a dialog with these settings? For native English speakers maybe this isn't such a deal, but for us technical non-English speaking folks, it makes quite a difference.

I know that this is a feature request but it would be great to still have it included in Dapper.

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Michael Vogt (mvo) wrote :

Thanks for your bugreport.

Sorry for the late answer. It is unfortunately too late for dapper but I would like to see it for edgy. Fell free to merge from my bzr tree (http://people.ubuntu.com/~mvo/bzr/language-selector/language-selector--mvo/) and add it .

Cheers,
 Michael

Changed in language-selector:
status: Unconfirmed → Confirmed
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Michael Z. Krog (mic-apaq) wrote :

What ever happened to this?

Ubuntu Feisty also lacks the support. In order to get my application format its numbers and dates
ind the correct danish way, the GUI has to be Danish also.

Problem is a lot of Danes likes the English GUI.

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dotancohen (dotancohen) wrote :

> What ever happened to this?

It appears that the OP was invited to contribute the code he wrote, but never did.

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Arne Goetje (arnegoetje) wrote : Re: [Bug 40669] Re: Can choose language but not date formats

dotancohen wrote:
>> What ever happened to this?
>
> It appears that the OP was invited to contribute the code he wrote, but
> never did.
>

This feature is on my radar and will be implemented during karmic cycle.
It's basically the LANG vs. LC_MESSAGES setting. So, in case of the OP,
he would be able to set LANG to pt_PT to get his date/time format right,
and LC_MESSAGES to en_US to get an English desktop.

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Launchpad Janitor (janitor) wrote :

This bug was fixed in the package language-selector - 0.5.0

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language-selector (0.5.0) lucid; urgency=low

  * new UI to allow separate language and locale settings (LP: #40669)
    (LP: #210776) (LP: #226155)
  * fixed locale generation code (LP: #236028)
 -- Arne Goetje <email address hidden> Thu, 25 Feb 2010 05:51:33 +0800

Changed in language-selector (Ubuntu):
status: Confirmed → Fix Released
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Merijn Schering (mschering) wrote :

This still doesn;t work in Lucid.

If I select English for the language and Dutch number formatting etc. Ubuntu is in English but programs like firefox and openoffice start in Dutch...

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nomnex (nomnex) wrote :

Sorry, but where is this number setting (#6)?

In System > Administration > there is a : "Language Support" but it offers only a language setting.

it's the same when I run: gnome-language-selector

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Merijn Schering (mschering) wrote :

There are two tabs. A tab called language and text. The number and date format option is on the second "Text" tab. (I translated the tab names from Dutch so the names might be different).

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Arne Goetje (arnegoetje) wrote :

On 05/26/2010 10:21 AM, Merijn Schering wrote:
> This still doesn;t work in Lucid.
>
> If I select English for the language and Dutch number formatting etc.
> Ubuntu is in English but programs like firefox and openoffice start in
> Dutch...
>
That's a bug in those programs (firefox, oo.o, etc.), they ignore the
LANGUAGE environment variable. There is a bug open for that already.
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/539761

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