Don't scare users who want to use -proposed

Bug #1604705 reported by Jean-Baptiste Lallement
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software-properties (Ubuntu)
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Bug Description

The GUI is intended for use by normal user and enabling proposed can make the system unstable. Despite this, some users want to use early release of packages and the current message discourage them of doing so.

It should be reworded to explain clearly that this channel contains early release of packages and not discourage them of using it.

ProblemType: Bug
DistroRelease: Ubuntu 16.10
Package: software-properties-gtk 0.96.24.1
ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 4.4.0-30.49-generic 4.4.13
Uname: Linux 4.4.0-30-generic x86_64
ApportVersion: 2.20.2-0ubuntu1
Architecture: amd64
CurrentDesktop: Unity
Date: Wed Jul 20 09:43:11 2016
InstallationDate: Installed on 2013-09-03 (1050 days ago)
InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 13.10 "Saucy Salamander" - Alpha amd64 (20130902)
PackageArchitecture: all
SourcePackage: software-properties
UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install)

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Jean-Baptiste Lallement (jibel) wrote :
summary: - Don't scare users who wants to use propose
+ Don't scare users who want to use propose
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Sebastien Bacher (seb128) wrote : Re: Don't scare users who want to use propose

Thanks for the report. Is the current wording really that discouraging? It just warns user that proposed version didn't go through full testing yet and might create issue, which is a fair statement. No objection to change it if design comes with another text though...

Changed in software-properties (Ubuntu):
importance: Undecided → Low
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Matthew Paul Thomas (mpt) wrote :

The current text is quite confused. (“Proposed updates are only for testing updates”? No. They aren’t *for* testing updates, they *are* updates.) And its lack of wrapping single-handedly makes the whole window much wider than it should be. So there’s a lot of room for improvement.

However, it’s strange to acknowledge that “enabling proposed can make the system unstable” but then immediately to claim that we should “not discourage [people from] using it”. Of course we should discourage people from making their system unstable! If there was no reason to discourage -proposed, there would be no reason not to have it on by default, which would be tantamount to it not existing at all.

Now, there are subtler and cruder methods of discouragement. Putting it in a “Developer Options” tab is by itself a subtle discouragement: “I’m not a developer, maybe I should stay away”. My current design goes further, putting it in a “Contributor Console” that’s a separate utility altogether. <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributorConsole#updates>

As long as that app remains unimplemented, I would use the same text as I specified there:
    Check for updates being tested (-proposed)
And replace the label above with a caption underneath, something like:
    Use proposed updates if you’re willing to report bugs on any problems that occur.

Changed in software-properties (Ubuntu):
status: New → Triaged
summary: - Don't scare users who want to use propose
+ Don't scare users who want to use -proposed
tags: added: rls-y-incoming
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Launchpad Janitor (janitor) wrote :

This bug was fixed in the package software-properties - 0.96.24.3

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software-properties (0.96.24.3) yakkety; urgency=medium

  * data/gtkbuilder/main.ui: tweak the wording for the enable proposed
    option as suggested on lp: #1604705, extra changes are described on the bug
    but that's more work so that's a first step in the direction

 -- Sebastien Bacher <email address hidden> Wed, 17 Aug 2016 11:34:26 +0200

Changed in software-properties (Ubuntu):
status: Triaged → Fix Released
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