Ubuntu
kubuntu-meta package

Live CD should provide information for Windows/Mac users after boot

Bug #125325 reported by Pau Garcia Quiles on 2007-07-11

Affects		Status	Importance	Assigned to	Milestone
	kubuntu-docs (Ubuntu)	Fix Released	Medium	Rich Johnson
	kubuntu-meta (Ubuntu)	Fix Released	Wishlist	Unassigned

Bug Description

When the KUbuntu live CD boots, it shows an immaculate desktop with an "Install" icon.

If you are an experienced Linux or KDE users, or someone has explained how to start with it, you might dare to try some applications and eventually find that Konqueror is the Internet Explorer equivalent, OpenOffice Writer (or KWord) the Microsoft Word equivalent, etc.

If you are new to Linux, most probably you will just turn off your computer because you will not know what to and do not want to put your computer in risk. Probably you won't ever know what a Live CD is, therefore you will be wondering what the $)=" has happenned to your wonderful Windows Vista desktop. You will be so scared you will not try to use that CD again unless someone provides you with some information.

I think KUbuntu (and Ubuntu, and every LiveCD) should show, right after booting, an informative page with a brief introduction to the distribution (KUbuntu, in this case) for newbies. Something as simple as a Konqueror showing a webpage would do (Knoppix shows some information, although it is not as useful as I'd like it to be). Some of the contents I would like to see:

1. "Welcolme to KUbuntu, a free software Linux distribution by Canonical Ltd and the KUbuntu community" (exactly that, no more words wasted)

2. You computer and data are safe!!! They have not been erased by this CD, and nothing will happen to them unless you explicitly do. If you reboot your computer without this KUbuntu CD, you will be able to use Windows and your data again. Beware that clicking on "Install", repartitioning your hard drive (if such an utility is available with a GUI), or mounting in read/write mode your Windows drivers might lead to destructive actions.

3. KUbuntu is the combination of Linux and KDE and is, at least, as good as Windows. KUbuntu is free but paid support is available from Canonical and others. Everything you currently do with Windows, you can do with KUbuntu.

4. List of some equivalents of Windows applications:
  Internet Explorer --> Konqueror
  Microsoft Word --> OpenOffice.org Writer
  Microsoft Excel --> OpenOffice.org Calc
  Windows Media Player --> Amarok (for audio), Kaffeine (for video)
  Winamp --> Amarok
  iTunes --> Amarok
  mIRC --> Konversation
  AIM/MSN Messenger/ICQ --> Kopete
  WinZip/WinRAR --> Ark
  Nero Burning ROM --> K3b
  Acrobat Reader --> KPDF
  Outlook Express --> KMail
  Microsoft Outlook --> Kontact

5. For more help, visit #kubuntu in IRC (irc.freenode.org) and the KUbuntu forums

6. Thank you for trying KUbuntu. We hope you enjoy the experience.

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lp:ubuntu/karmic/kubuntu-docs

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Jonathan Jesse (jjesse) wrote on 2007-07-11:

I think this should be something the Ubuntu-Docs should be working on to try and fix if it is something that wants to be done by the development team

Changed in kubuntu-meta:
assignee:	nobody → ubuntu-doc

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Rich Johnson (nixternal) wrote on 2007-07-11:

There is supposedly a doc being created or something that goes along these lines when doing an install. You know how Windows does with their installs, they give you information about the system.

I already have a little bit of something like this at home. Jonathan, we should check with JR and see if he would want to do this. I have been seeing this Ubiquity slideshow thing for 2 releases w/o any outcome, it is time to do something.

I HIGHLY AGREE WITH THIS!

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Rich Johnson (nixternal) wrote on 2007-07-12:

I will start a concept of this and hopefully have it finished here soon. Need to get it done before Main Freeze!

Changed in kubuntu-meta:
assignee:	ubuntu-doc → nixternal

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Rich Johnson (nixternal) wrote on 2007-07-12:

#4 is the only thing that needs to be created/modified on my part. The rest of them are already installed and are available while running from a LiveCD. The only thing JR will need to do is activate the Release Notes again like we had done with previous releases.

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Hemant (hemantdesai-1) wrote on 2007-07-12: Re: [Bug 125325] Live CD should provide information for Windows/Mac users after boot

Great observation and I the remedy looks like a practical one !

On 7/12/07, Pau Garcia i Quiles <email address hidden> wrote:
>
> You have been subscribed to a public bug:
>
> When the KUbuntu live CD boots, it shows an immaculate desktop with an
> "Install" icon.
>
> If you are an experienced Linux or KDE users, or someone has explained
> how to start with it, you might dare to try some applications and
> eventually find that Konqueror is the Internet Explorer equivalent,
> OpenOffice Writer (or KWord) the Microsoft Word equivalent, etc.
>
> If you are new to Linux, most probably you will just turn off your
> computer because you will not know what to and do not want to put your
> computer in risk. Probably you won't ever know what a Live CD is,
> therefore you will be wondering what the $)=" has happenned to your
> wonderful Windows Vista desktop. You will be so scared you will not try
> to use that CD again unless someone provides you with some information.
>
> I think KUbuntu (and Ubuntu, and every LiveCD) should show, right after
> booting, an informative page with a brief introduction to the
> distribution (KUbuntu, in this case) for newbies. Something as simple as
> a Konqueror showing a webpage would do (Knoppix shows some information,
> although it is not as useful as I'd like it to be). Some of the contents
> I would like to see:
>
> 1. "Welcolme to KUbuntu, a free software Linux distribution by Canonical
> Ltd and the KUbuntu community" (exactly that, no more words wasted)
>
> 2. You computer and data are safe!!! They have not been erased by this
> CD, and nothing will happen to them unless you explicitly do. If you
> reboot your computer without this KUbuntu CD, you will be able to use
> Windows and your data again. Beware that clicking on "Install",
> repartitioning your hard drive (if such an utility is available with a
> GUI), or mounting in read/write mode your Windows drivers might lead to
> destructive actions.
>
> 3. KUbuntu is the combination of Linux and KDE and is, at least, as good
> as Windows. KUbuntu is free but paid support is available from Canonical
> and others. Everything you currently do with Windows, you can do with
> KUbuntu.
>
> 4. List of some equivalents of Windows applications:
> Internet Explorer --> Konqueror
> Microsoft Word --> OpenOffice.org Writer
> Microsoft Excel --> OpenOffice.org Calc
> Windows Media Player --> Amarok (for audio), Kaffeine (for video)
> Winamp --> Amarok
> iTunes --> Amarok
> mIRC --> Konversation
> AIM/MSN Messenger/ICQ --> Kopete
> WinZip/WinRAR --> Ark
> Nero Burning ROM --> K3b
> Acrobat Reader --> KPDF
> Outlook Express --> KMail
> Microsoft Outlook --> Kontact
>
> 5. For more help, visit #kubuntu in IRC (irc.freenode.org) and the
> KUbuntu forums
>
> 6. Thank you for trying KUbuntu. We hope you enjoy the experience.
>
> ** Affects: kubuntu-meta (Ubuntu)
> Importance: Wishlist
> Status: New
>
> --
> Live CD should provide information for Windows/Mac users after boot
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/125325
>

Great observation and I the remedy looks like a practical one !

On 7/12/07, Pau Garcia i Quiles <pgquiles@elpauer.org> wrote:
>
> You have been subscribed to a public bug:
>
> When the KUbuntu live CD boots, it shows an immaculate desktop with an
> "Install" icon.
>
> If you are an experienced Linux or KDE users, or someone has explained
> how to start with it, you might dare to try some applications and
> eventually find that Konqueror is the Internet Explorer equivalent,
> OpenOffice Writer (or KWord) the Microsoft Word equivalent, etc.
>
> If you are new to Linux, most probably you will just turn off your
> computer because you will not know what to and do not want to put your
> computer in risk. Probably you won't ever know what a Live CD is,
> therefore you will be wondering what the $)=" has happenned to your
> wonderful Windows Vista desktop. You will be so scared you will not try
> to use that CD again unless someone provides you with some information.
>
> I think KUbuntu (and Ubuntu, and every LiveCD) should show, right after
> booting, an informative page with a brief introduction to the
> distribution (KUbuntu, in this case) for newbies. Something as simple as
> a Konqueror showing a webpage would do (Knoppix shows some information,
> although it is not as useful as I'd like it to be). Some of the contents
> I would like to see:
>
> 1. "Welcolme to KUbuntu, a free software Linux distribution by Canonical
> Ltd and the KUbuntu community" (exactly that, no more words wasted)
>
> 2. You computer and data are safe!!! They have not been erased by this
> CD, and nothing will happen to them unless you explicitly do. If you
> reboot your computer without this KUbuntu CD, you will be able to use
> Windows and your data again. Beware that clicking on "Install",
> repartitioning your hard drive (if such an utility is available with a
> GUI), or mounting in read/write mode your Windows drivers might lead to
> destructive actions.
>
> 3. KUbuntu is the combination of Linux and KDE and is, at least, as good
> as Windows. KUbuntu is free but paid support is available from Canonical
> and others. Everything you currently do with Windows, you can do with
> KUbuntu.
>
> 4. List of some equivalents of Windows applications:
> Internet Explorer     --> Konqueror
> Microsoft Word        --> OpenOffice.org Writer
> Microsoft Excel       --> OpenOffice.org Calc
> Windows Media Player  --> Amarok (for audio), Kaffeine (for video)
> Winamp                --> Amarok
> iTunes                --> Amarok
> mIRC                  --> Konversation
> AIM/MSN Messenger/ICQ --> Kopete
> WinZip/WinRAR         --> Ark
> Nero Burning ROM      --> K3b
> Acrobat Reader        --> KPDF
> Outlook Express       --> KMail
> Microsoft Outlook     --> Kontact
>
> 5. For more help, visit #kubuntu in IRC (irc.freenode.org) and the
> KUbuntu forums
>
> 6. Thank you for trying KUbuntu. We hope you enjoy the experience.
>
> ** Affects: kubuntu-meta (Ubuntu)
>     Importance: Wishlist
>         Status: New
>
> --
> Live CD should provide information for Windows/Mac users after boot
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/125325
>

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Rich Johnson (nixternal) wrote on 2007-08-12:

Working on adding this to the about-kubuntu document.

Changed in kubuntu-docs:
assignee:	nobody → nixternal
importance:	Undecided → Medium
status:	New → In Progress

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Rich Johnson (nixternal) wrote on 2007-08-12:

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Author: nixternal
Date: Sun Aug 12 20:58:05 2007
New Revision: 4221

Modified:
trunk/kubuntu/about-kubuntu/C/about-kubuntu.xml

Log:
prepare about-kubuntu for LiveCD launch (LP: #125325)

<para>
@@ -82,6 +83,205 @@
access applications, web server software, email software, programming
languages and tools, and of course, several games.
</para>
+
+<sect2 id="livecd" status="draft">
+<title>Kubuntu Live CD</title>
+
+<note><title>Your data is safe</title>
+<para>
+If you have not initiated the install of Kubuntu, and are just running the
+Live CD to see what Kubuntu has to offer, then your data is safe. This Live CD
+will not harm your data unless you intend to do so by clicking the
+<guibutton>Install</guibutton> icon and utilize the entire hard disk during the
+install.
+</para>
+</note>
+
+<para>
+Welcome to the Kubuntu Live CD. The Live CD provides you with a test run of
+Kubuntu without destroying the data that is currently on your computer. The
+Live CD also provides you the option to install Kubuntu onto your system in a
+variety of ways. You can install it as a standalone system by utilizing your
+entire hard drive or you can set it up as an option in a multi-boot system.
+</para>
+
+<para>
+When you are finished viewing Kubuntu from the Live CD, simply reboot your
+computer and remove the CD from the drive. This will allow you to boot normally
+back into your default operating system.
+</para>
+</sect2>
+
+<sect2 id="equivalents" status="draft">
+<title>Equivalent applications in Kubuntu</title>
+
+<para>
+Kubuntu comes with a variety of applications that will allow you to get up and
+running right from the start. Whether you plan on using your system for
+browsing the web, word processing and office use, multimedia, email, and more,
+Kubuntu has a great variety of applications that you might be used to coming
+from another operating system such as Mac OSX or Windows. The following is a
+common list of equivalents in hope of getting you up and running faster.
+</para>
+
+<variablelist><title>Application equivalency in Kubuntu</title>
+<varlistentry><term>Internet Explorer or Safari</term>
+<listitem>
+<para>
+<application>Konqueror</application> is the default web browser for Kubuntu.
+<application>Firefox</application> is also available for Kubuntu. For
+installation instructions and further information, please refer to the <ulink
+type="help" url="help:/...

Author: nixternal
Date: Sun Aug 12 20:58:05 2007
New Revision: 4221

Modified:
   trunk/kubuntu/about-kubuntu/C/about-kubuntu.xml

Log:
prepare about-kubuntu for LiveCD launch (LP: #125325)

Modified: trunk/kubuntu/about-kubuntu/C/about-kubuntu.xml
==============================================================================
--- trunk/kubuntu/about-kubuntu/C/about-kubuntu.xml     (original)
+++ trunk/kubuntu/about-kubuntu/C/about-kubuntu.xml     Sun Aug 12 20:58:05 2007
@@ -35,7 +35,8 @@
 Welcome to Kubuntu &distro-rev;: the &distro-version; Release. Kubuntu is a
 user-friendly operating system based on KDE, the K Desktop Environment. With a
 predictable 6 month release cycle as part of the Ubuntu project, Kubuntu is the
-Linux distribution for everyone.
+Linux distribution for everyone. The Kubuntu team is happy in your interest in
+Kubuntu and we thank you for trying Kubuntu.
 </para>
 
 <para>
@@ -82,6 +83,205 @@
 access applications, web server software, email software, programming
 languages and tools, and of course, several games.
 </para>
+
+<sect2 id="livecd" status="draft">
+<title>Kubuntu Live CD</title>
+
+<note><title>Your data is safe</title>
+<para>
+If you have not initiated the install of Kubuntu, and are just running the
+Live CD to see what Kubuntu has to offer, then your data is safe. This Live CD
+will not harm your data unless you intend to do so by clicking the
+<guibutton>Install</guibutton> icon and utilize the entire hard disk during the
+install.
+</para>
+</note>
+
+<para>
+Welcome to the Kubuntu Live CD. The Live CD provides you with a test run of
+Kubuntu without destroying the data that is currently on your computer. The
+Live CD also provides you the option to install Kubuntu onto your system in a
+variety of ways. You can install it as a standalone system by utilizing your
+entire hard drive or you can set it up as an option in a multi-boot system.
+</para>
+
+<para>
+When you are finished viewing Kubuntu from the Live CD, simply reboot your
+computer and remove the CD from the drive. This will allow you to boot normally
+back into your default operating system.
+</para>
+</sect2>
+
+<sect2 id="equivalents" status="draft">
+<title>Equivalent applications in Kubuntu</title>
+
+<para>
+Kubuntu comes with a variety of applications that will allow you to get up and
+running right from the start. Whether you plan on using your system for
+browsing the web, word processing and office use, multimedia, email, and more,
+Kubuntu has a great variety of applications that you might be used to coming
+from another operating system such as Mac OSX or Windows. The following is a
+common list of equivalents in hope of getting you up and running faster.
+</para>
+
+<variablelist><title>Application equivalency in Kubuntu</title>
+<varlistentry><term>Internet Explorer or Safari</term>
+<listitem>
+<para>
+<application>Konqueror</application> is the default web browser for Kubuntu.
+<application>Firefox</application> is also available for Kubuntu. For
+installation instructions and further information, please refer to the <ulink
+type="help" url="help:/kubuntu/internet">Internet</ulink> section of the
+Kubuntu documentation.
+</para>
+</listitem>
+</varlistentry>
+
+<varlistentry><term>Microsoft Outlook, Outlook Express, and Apple's Mail</term>
+<listitem>
+<para>
+The Microsoft Outlook and Apple's Mail equivalent is
+<application>Kontact</application>. If <application>Kontact</application> is
+more than you need and you are used to Microsoft Outlook Express, then you can
+use <application>KMail</application>. Mozilla's
+<application>Thunderbird</application> is also available for installation. For
+installation instructions and further information, please refer to the <ulink
+type="help" url="help:/kubuntu/internet">Internet</ulink> section of the
+Kubuntu documentation.
+</para>
+</listitem>
+</varlistentry>
+
+<varlistentry><term>Microsoft Word</term>
+<listitem>
+<para>
+<application>OpenOffice.org Writer</application> is the default word processor
+for Kubuntu. <application>KOffice</application> is also available for Kubuntu.
+For installation instructions and further information, please refer to the
+<ulink type="help" url="help:/kubuntu/office">Office</ulink> section of the
+Kubuntu documentation.
+</para>
+</listitem>
+</varlistentry>
+
+<varlistentry><term>Microsoft Excel</term>
+<listitem>
+<para>
+<application>OpenOffice.org Calc</application> is the default spreadsheet
+application for Kubuntu. <application>KOffice</application> is also available
+for Kubuntu. For installation instructions and further information, please refer
+to the <ulink type="help" url="help:/kubuntu/office">Office</ulink> section of
+the Kubuntu documentation.
+</para>
+</listitem>
+</varlistentry>
+
+<varlistentry><term>Microsoft PowerPoint</term>
+<listitem>
+<para>
+<application>OpenOffice.org Impress</application> is the default presentation
+application for Kubuntu. <application>KOffice</application> is also available
+for Kubuntu. For installation instructions and further information, please refer
+to the <ulink type="help" url="help:/kubuntu/office">Office</ulink> section of
+the Kubuntu documentation.
+</para>
+</listitem>
+</varlistentry>
+
+<varlistentry><term>Microsoft Windows Media Player</term>
+<listitem>
+<para>
+<application>Amarok</application> is the default audio application for Kubuntu
+and <application>Kaffeine</application> is the default video application. The
+re are various other applications as well for multimedia use. For installation
+instructions and further information, please refer to the <ulink type="help"
+url="help:/kubuntu/musicvideophotos">Multimedia</ulink> section of the Kubuntu
+documentation.
+</para>
+</listitem>
+</varlistentry>
+
+<varlistentry><term>Winamp and iTunes</term>
+<listitem>
+<para>
+<application>Amarok</application> is the default audio application for Kubuntu.
+There are various other applications as well for multimedia use. For
+installation instructions and further information, please refer to the <ulink
+type="help" url="help:/kubuntu/musicvideophotos">Multimedia</ulink> section of
+the Kubuntu documentation.
+</para>
+</listitem>
+</varlistentry>
+
+<varlistentry><term>AIM, MSN, Yahoo, Jabber, ICQ, and more</term>
+<listitem>
+<para>
+<application>Kopete</application> is the default instant messaging application
+for Kubuntu. There are various other applications as well for communication use.
+For installation instructions and further information, please refer to the
+<ulink type="help" url="help:/kubuntu/internet">Internet</ulink> section of the
+Kubuntu documentation.
+</para>
+</listitem>
+</varlistentry>
+
+<varlistentry><term>mIRC and other IRC clients</term>
+<listitem>
+<para>
+<application>Konversation</application> is the default <acronym>IRC</acronym>
+client in Kubuntu. There are various other <acronym>IRC</acronym> clients
+available to Kubuntu. For installation instructions and further information,
+please refer to the <ulink type="help"
+url="help:/kubuntu/internet">Internet</ulink> section of the Kubuntu
+documentation.
+</para>
+</listitem>
+</varlistentry>
+
+<varlistentry><term>WinZIP or WinRAR</term>
+<listitem>
+<para>
+<application>Ark</application> is the default file compression application
+for Kubuntu. <application>7zip</application> is also available for Kubuntu.
+</para>
+</listitem>
+</varlistentry>
+
+<varlistentry><term>CD/DVD Burning</term>
+<listitem>
+<para>
+<application>K3b</application> is the default
+<acronym>CD</acronym>/<acronym>DVD</acronym> burning application for Kubuntu.
+For installation instructions and further information, please refer to the
+<ulink type="help" url="help:/kubuntu/musicvideophotos">Multimedia</ulink>
+section of the Kubuntu documentation.
+</para>
+</listitem>
+</varlistentry>
+
+<varlistentry><term>Adobe Acrobat Reader</term>
+<listitem>
+<para>
+<application>KPDF</application> is the default <acronym>PDF</acronym> viewer for
+Kubuntu.
+</para>
+</listitem>
+</varlistentry>
+</variablelist>
+
+</sect2>
+
+<sect2 id="kubuntu-help" status="draft">
+<title>Kubuntu help</title>
+
+<para>
+There are various locations for you to receive help with your Kubuntu system. A
+list of the most common locations are found in the <ulink type="help"
+url="help:/kubuntu/getting-help">Getting Help</ulink> section of the Kubuntu
+documentation.
+</para>
+</sect2>
+
 </sect1>
 
 <sect1 id="linux" status="complete">

Changed in kubuntu-docs:
status:	In Progress → Fix Committed

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Rich Johnson (nixternal) wrote on 2007-08-12:

I have added a lot of the text that Pau Garcia i Quiles has requested to the about-kubuntu documentation. If there is anything else you would like to see, some rewording, or what not please let me know. If you would like to review what the documentation will look like please review it at http://www.nixternal.com/tmp/kubuntu/about-kubuntu/C for the time being. Thanks!

Changed in kubuntu-meta:
status:	New → Confirmed

Rich Johnson (nixternal) on 2007-08-12

Changed in kubuntu-meta:
assignee:	nixternal → kubuntu-devel
assignee:	kubuntu-devel → nobody

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Rich Johnson (nixternal) wrote on 2007-08-17:

kubuntu-docs (7.10-2) gutsy; urgency=low

  * New SVN checkout
  * Commented out translations in debian/rules until final release
  * Added about-kubuntu.desktop to plugins/kubuntu for LiveCD desktop icon
  * Added index-table.css to debian/rules for the index.html file
  * Cleaned up Makefile in SVN, show changes here
  * Added pot files for about-kubuntu and systemdocs .desktop and .directory
    files
  * Closes the following bugs:
    - (LP: #125325)
    - (LP: #131076)
    - (LP: #107062)
    - (LP: #129327)
    - (LP: #123648)
    - (LP: #131366)

-- <email address hidden> (Richard A. Johnson) Fri, 17 Aug 2007 16:58:46 -0500

Changed in kubuntu-docs:
status:	Fix Committed → Fix Released

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Rich Johnson (nixternal) wrote on 2007-08-18:

#10

  Format: 1.7
Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2007 12:51:02 +0100
Source: casper
Binary: casper ubiquity-casper
Architecture: source
Version: 1.96
Distribution: gutsy
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Ubuntu Core Developers <email address hidden>
Changed-By: Colin Watson <email address hidden>
Description:
casper - Run a "live" preinstalled system from read-only media
ubiquity-casper - Configuration hooks for live installer
Changes:
casper (1.96) gutsy; urgency=low
.
   [ Colin Watson ]
   * Fix name and executability of timezone script.
.
   [ Jonathan Riddell ]
   * In 10adduser add About Kubuntu document to desktop and remove
     restricted-manager autostart files
Files:
f370f326b94538a694cbcea78eddf743 613 misc optional casper_1.96.dsc
caedb8e0f315abd1af53d9b56efa2d13 1158942 misc optional casper_1.96.tar.gz

Changed in kubuntu-meta:
status:	Confirmed → Fix Released

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