Hi,
is fixed-order supposed to always be on?
I cannot toggle it off, neither entering 2, nor with “fixed_order=OFF”
@Hua-sheng, it should be rather easy to merge with the EW branch


Cheers,

Marco


The following switches determine which operations are executed:
 1 Perturbative order of the calculation:                               order=NLO
 2 Fixed order (no event generation and no MC@[N]LO matching):    fixed_order=ON
 3 Shower the generated events:                                        shower=Not available for decay
 4 Decay particles with the MadSpin module:                           madspin=Not available for decay
 5 Add weights to the events based on changing model parameters:     reweight=Not available for decay
  Either type the switch number (1 to 5) to change its default setting,
  or set any switch explicitly (e.g. type 'order=LO' at the prompt)
  Type '0', 'auto', 'done' or just press enter when you are done.
 [0, 1, auto, done, order=LO, order=NLO, fixed_order=ON, LO, NLO][60s to answer] 
>2
2 not valid argument. Valid argument are in (0,1,auto,done,order=LO,order=NLO,fixed_order=ON,LO,NLO,fixed_order=on,order=nlo,order=lo).
please retry
>[timer stopped]
fixed_order=ON
INFO: For coherence 'shower' is set to 'OFF' 
INFO: For coherence 'madspin' is set to 'OFF' 
INFO: For coherence 'reweight' is set to 'OFF' 
The following switches determine which operations are executed:
 1 Perturbative order of the calculation:                               order=NLO
 2 Fixed order (no event generation and no MC@[N]LO matching):    fixed_order=ON
 3 Shower the generated events:                                        shower=OFF
 4 Decay particles with the MadSpin module:                           madspin=OFF
 5 Add weights to the events based on changing model parameters:     reweight=OFF
  Either type the switch number (1 to 5) to change its default setting,
  or set any switch explicitly (e.g. type 'order=LO' at the prompt)
  Type '0', 'auto', 'done' or just press enter when you are done.
 [0, 1, auto, done, order=LO, order=NLO, fixed_order=ON, LO, NLO, ... ][60s to answer] 
>fixed_order=OFF
fixed_order=OFF not valid argument. Valid argument are in (0,1,auto,done,order=LO,order=NLO,fixed_order=ON,LO,NLO,fixed_order=on,order=nlo,order=lo,fixed_order=on,order=nlo,order=lo).
please retry
>
use 0


On 09 Oct 2015, at 11:48, Hua-Sheng Shao <email address hidden> wrote:

> HI Rik,
> 
> It is really cool that decay process works at NLO. I quickly tested one process in order to compare with SMWidth. If one wants to calculate the total width for Z (which can be used by MadWidth for CMS@NLO for example), I
> 
> define f = j l+ l- vl vl~ ta+ ta-
> generate z > f f [QCD]
> 
> It is apparent that there is no QCD corrections to some subprocesses like z > l+ l-. The program crashes since no virtual and real diagrams will be generated. 
> 
> Is it possible to automatically realize if there is no QCD corrections and only calculates tree-level? Or you think it is better to do it in MadWidth to decide which subprocesses have QCD corrections.  
> 
> A tiny thing: in summary.txt and also the output, it is
> 
>      Final results and run summary:
>      Process z > j j [QCD]
>      Run at l-l collider (6500.0 + 6500.0 GeV)
>      (Partial) decay width:      1.761e+00 +- 2.0e-03 GeV
>      Ren. and fac. scale uncertainty: +0.4% -0.3%
> 
> Can you remove "Run at l-l collider (6500.0 + 6500.0 GeV)". Moreover, if one wants to change the scale, how can one set in decay process?
> 
> @Marco: do you think how easy/difficult to implement Rik's implementation in EW branches ? It might be quite useful and have some complicated comparison between MG5 and SMWidth.
> 
> I will give a serious report later and compare the numbers with SMWidth.
> 
> Great work and awesome !
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Hua-Sheng
> 
> On Oct 9, 2015, at 11:33 AM, Olivier Mattelaer <email address hidden> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Rik,
>> 
>> I put to “no cut” all the run_card parameter flagged as “cut” in the python object. (The same will apply to all future cut)
>> This is done at the default run_card level, so all the cut are still allowed to be modified but are not present by default.
>> This is the exact behaviour that we have @LO.
>> 
>> When trying to test, I face this error:
>> aMCatNLOError : Decay processes can only be run at fixed order.
>> 
>> So I have also change the default question to:
>> 
>> The following switches determine which operations are executed:
>> 1 Perturbative order of the calculation:                               order=NLO
>> 2 Fixed order (no event generation and no MC@[N]LO matching):    fixed_order=ON
>> 3 Shower the generated events:                                        shower=Not available for decay
>> 4 Decay particles with the MadSpin module:                           madspin=Not available for decay
>> 5 Add weights to the events based on changing model parameters:     reweight=Not available for decay
>> Either type the switch number (1 to 5) to change its default setting,
>> or set any switch explicitly (e.g. type 'order=LO' at the prompt)
>> Type '0', 'auto', 'done' or just press enter when you are done.
>> [0, 1, auto, done, order=LO, order=NLO, fixed_order=ON, LO, NLO][60s to answer] 
>> 
>> Such that this is automatically a good setup which is used and all unsupported case are forbidden.
>> 
>> For both of them, I had to change the way aMC@NLO supports the proc_characteristic object/file.
>> So Marco please take a look.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Olivier
>> 
>> 
>> On 08 Oct 2015, at 19:42, Rikkert Frederix <email address hidden> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Olivier,
>>> 
>>> That would be great. It's just the 'ptj', 'mll_sf' and 'ptgmin' that should be set to zero.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Rikkert
>>> 
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>> 
>> 
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>> You are requested to review the proposed merge of lp:~maddevelopers/mg5amcnlo/NLO_decay_process into lp:~maddevelopers/mg5amcnlo/2.3.3.
> 
> 
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> You are requested to review the proposed merge of lp:~maddevelopers/mg5amcnlo/NLO_decay_process into lp:~maddevelopers/mg5amcnlo/2.3.3.