Comment 131 for bug 882274

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mr.goose (editor-garfnet) wrote :

@Tal Liron...

I was not offering a solution to the core issues raised by this bug. I was careful to describe my suggestions merely as "possible workarounds". Having completely dumped Windows in favour of Ubuntu back in 2007, Unity was very bad news indeed for us. We have paying customers who depend on Ubuntu, that describe Unity as a "worse than Windows experience" or "Ubuntu's Vista". Therefore we had the stark choice of finding some viable workarounds or dumping Ubuntu altogether.

I agree with you that forcing a half-finished desktop on users is a very bad idea - something the KDE devs have very much learnt the hard way. However, I'm not sure I would agree that Unity is a "terrific desktop" though. At least with early, buggy incarnations of KDE 4, one could see that once the bugs were fixed and features properly implemented, that KDE4 would be a great desktop. And it is.

The situation with Unity is entirely different, IMHO. What we see with Unity is a crude, Fisher-Price style interface, with loads of really stupid annoying features that get in the way of doing any serious work, e.g. the disappearing scroll bars and menu bars. These features are stupid and annoying. Users hate them. Regardless of how much polish they apply to Unity, these features will *always* be stupid and annoying.

Added to which, whilst I am a great admirer of Mark Shuttleworth, I think he is presenting himself very badly in this instance. Frankly, he comes across as arrogant and uncaring. As you put it at top of this thread, rather more politely , "This appears to be a communications failure between the people who make Unity and its community of users."

The knock-on effects of this communications failure should not be underestimated. This article by Scott Gilbertson in The Register entitled "Sick of Ubuntu's bad breath? Suck on a Linux Mint instead" sums up the situation far better that I can:-
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/01/30/mint_12_under_the_covers/

And doubtless you have already seen Bruce Byfield's blog in Linux Magazine, that discusses this thread:-
http://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/Blogs/Off-the-Beat-Bruce-Byfield-s-Blog/A-Disturbing-Dialog-About-Ubuntu-and-Unity

And if that is not enough to indicate that Ubuntu is heading in the wrong direction, Distrowatch's page hit ranking now places Ubuntu at #3, with Mint occupying the top slot for the last 12 months:-
http://distrowatch.com/dwres.php?resource=popularity

Like yourself and many other contributors to this thread, I am a huge Ubuntu fan. I am so very sorry to see it embarking on this path of wilful ignorance and ultimate self-destruction.

Best wishes, G.