Comment 34 for bug 84958

"You keep posting irrelevant comparisons to scenarios ..."

A comparison to a scenario? What would such a thing be anyway?

".. which almost never occur in practice. "

Well, a google image search returns about 82,000 hits.
It was very common practise just a year ago, when the flash player for linux was still incompatible with version 7.
It was the suggested solution in both the Ubuntu Forums, Wiki as well as the Ubuntu Guide.
Guess my definition of "never occurs in practise" is different..

"The following is a perfect example:"

Well, this example was a REAL-LIFE example. Not some theoretical thingie.
If you run Firefox on wine, you can run Windows Media Player-plugin (together with Java and the most recent flash-player).

Some sites, such as my local country's public broadcasting system works quirky or not at all with totem-plugin or mplayer-plugin. So there is a real use-case for dutch people to actually install firefox on wine + windows-media-player to play those files.

Guess, you are very familiar with all 2 million Ubuntu users and their practises.
Never occured to you that it maybe your small world isn't a good sample to base your generalisations on?

"Wouldn't it be easier to just install Windows?"

This goes nice with your own previous "why don't you create your own distro" response.

And for records: installing windows is definately not easier, nor cheaper.

"If a user chooses to complicate their life by installing redundant applications then whose problem is that?"

There is nothing redunant about that situation. Unless you suggest that the user un-installs the native firefox, and use the windows one for all sites that do not require windows-media-player as well?

"These are prefect examples of how menu items alone do not dictate a user's pattern of usage with an application. You keep trying to box them into specific categories but it's not possible."

I'lll try to reponse, but i'm not exactly sure what hell you are saying here.
But even if only a couple of users will run into these problems, it doesn't make the problems any less valid.

"Your technical background is irrelevant. Your argument needs to stand on it's own merits. I don't care if you are the Pope."

The reason, after all these comments, i felt obliged to point this out, was that instead of responding to my arguments, you tried to educate me in the most simple stuff possible. About where the desktop-files are located, why windows programs end up in the wine menu, etc. It was just plain offensive assuming I was _that_ ignorant.
I couldn't think of a more polite way to point that out.

Interesting choice of you to take this as the possibility to get more offensive towards me.

"My user's aren't going to care if the menu items are combined in a Wine sub-menu or not. They proven to not be that stupid. "

Well, mine are going to care.
And users are never stupid.

I can walk with my hands tied behind my back. Doesn't make it a good idea, now does it?