Comment 25 for bug 132311

and why on Earth you keep talking about testers convenience in their testing environment and pre-releases when i, and probably most people, talk about user convenience on stable, if that can be said about ubuntu, final release ? 0_o

i starting to have an impression that you suggesting that i should not try to lure away people on gnu/linux via ubuntu unless they are masochists. because i see no connection between expertise and bunch of 2.6.X.{A,B,C-Z} kernels lying around with no one explicitly "ordering" them on end-user system and no other distro i know does that.

again you probably didn't read anything i have written - this bug report is not about "just update-manager", it's about all of reports it has in "duplicates" field and you should probably read them too.
and yes, it's not a best way to get input about "boot menu" since everything alright with menu itself (you the one who stated it should be redesigned while it actually being redesigned by grub2 developers but this is off-topic), the problem is in boot list in boot menu but nor bootloader nor menu-generation code is faulty - the concept of putting bunch of useless stuff into /boot of "production-ready"\released system is faulty.

here, if anyone have trouble navigating here, bug 241368 . read the damn thing, please.
now i try to think about what's important and why would anyone mark bug 241368 as duplicate for that (probably, because both can be solved by the same thing). and no, solutions are different if you will try to work-around 2 issues which should not exist by making two crutches which should not exist - know any other OSes which been born that way and constantly nag its user with useless pop-ups ?

now you are using "they do not understand 'anything' that's why we can put anything on them unless it bothers us" argument. bad argument.