Comment 11 for bug 712521
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| Norbert Preining (preining) wrote Re: [Bug 712521] Re: [Needs packaging] TeXLive 2011 | #11 |
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Hi everyone,
> I should point out that, with the package manager tlmgr (new since the
> 2010 version), there's no real need to group individual TeX Live
> packages into debian ones, as was done with Live 2009. Instead, the
> user can maintain a Live package system orthogonal to Ubuntu's.
Wrong. It seems you have no idea about packaging. This is simpy not possible. I only give a hint: auto building packages needing tex, how should that work?
Or: how to distribute the packages?
And something else, tlmgr is now existing since 2007, I wrote it.
> Having two package managers is not really an issue here, since tlmgr
> would only install stuff into the texlive folder anyway
That is not the point ... maybe you should read the packaging guide for Debian/Ubuntu to get a grasp on what are the problems.
> (look how well
> it works for people who've manually installed Tex Live 2011).
Of course, because they all install texlive full scheme, so everything.
Guess how many complains we (now I am Debian maintainer) get about the size? If I could package all of TL in one package that would be much easier ...
> As for
> apt-get dependency issues, the fact is that most of texlive is
> essentially a bunch of "addons" to a very few number of essential
> programs.
Yes, but how to determine which addons are needed (btw, are you using TeX???)
> [Sane] external programs would not be referencing these
> addons, but only the basic texlive features.
Rubbish rubbish rubbish. Evrry documentation compiled while package building needs several of these addons, some of them hundreds .... arggg
you seem to have no idea what TeX and friends is about!?
> I mention this because it seems that we don't have the time or manpower
> for the more conservative solution
Yes that is true. I have already posted li ks to preliminary 2011 packages where there are still loads of bugs and far from working.
Guess howmany people took a look at them and send me feedback?! 1 (One).
Yes, lack of manpower. So why don't you step forward and contribute?
Enjoy
Norbert
Debian TeX maintainer
TeX Live (upstream) main programmer