Comment 8 for bug 1076975

Comments at the im-config merge proposal, posted for the record
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osamu (osamu) wrote on 2012-12-01:

Hi,

This cjkv is almost as an example code for me and it is not meant to be
default. Thai, India, ... many other locale may wish to enable IM.

Whoever install im-config with some IM packages has some needs to enable
IM. That is the official thought behind the current choice in Debian.

You can call this selfish choice because the other reason was that I use
en_US.UTF-8 but I need ibus-mozc :-)

If Ubuntu thinks that cjkv mode is better for its audience, please go
ahead with cjkv mode as default.

Since under normal install of Debian system, im-config and IM packages
are installed only under CJK... my current default is good one for
Debian situation. But Ubuntu being one install image for many locales,
you may wish to differ from Debian here.

(Somehow my post to Ubuntu sometimes rejected. If it does not show up
there, plese forward this to Ubuntu site.)

Gunnar Hjalmarsson (gunnarhj) wrote on 2012-12-01:

Thanks for your comment, osamu!

Please note that even if standard Ubuntu is a global distribution, and most of its users don't use input methods, Ubuntu is/will be shipped with IBus + im-switch/im-config. It would not be good IMO to use "auto" as default, since then Ubuntu would suddenly start launching IBus for users who don't even know what an input method is.

im-switch defaults to launch IBus for CJK languages only, and I concluded that "cjkv" is a reasonable im-config default for Ubuntu. Yes, I think it's motivated that we differ from Debian in this respect.

Of course, if you could add further appropiate locales to the list of locales that trigger launch of an input method in the "cjkv" mode, it would be even better. ;-)

osamu (osamu) wrote on 2012-12-02:

On Sat, Dec 01, 2012 at 04:50:33PM -0000, Gunnar Hjalmarsson wrote:
> Thanks for your comment, osamu!
>
> Please note that even if standard Ubuntu is a global distribution, and
> most of its users don't use input methods, Ubuntu is/will be shipped
> with IBus + im-switch/im-config. It would not be good IMO to use
> "auto" as default, since then Ubuntu would suddenly start launching
> IBus for users who don't even know what an input method is.

I agree your assessment. No objection here.

> im-switch defaults to launch IBus for CJK languages only, and I
> concluded that "cjkv" is a reasonable im-config default for Ubuntu.
> Yes, I think it's motivated that we differ from Debian in this
> respect.

I see.

> Of course, if you could add further appropiate locales to the list of
> locales that trigger launch of an input method in the "cjkv" mode, it
> would be even better. ;-)

I do not know which locale to activate. Please file wishlist bug to
Debian on which locales to activate under cjkv mode. Since this will be
Ubuntu default, I will listen to your decision on this matter.

Osamu
PS: Please repost this to your bug list so this message is in public
eyes if this does not show up in LP.

Gunnar Hjalmarsson (gunnarhj) wrote on 2012-12-02:

Your messages show up in Launchpad just fine.

On 2012-12-02 01:07, osamu wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 01, 2012 at 04:50:33PM -0000, Gunnar Hjalmarsson wrote:
>> Of course, if you could add further appropiate locales to the list
>> of locales that trigger launch of an input method in the "cjkv"
>> mode, it would be even better. ;-)
>
> I do not know which locale to activate. Please file wishlist bug to
> Debian on which locales to activate under cjkv mode. Since this will
> be Ubuntu default, I will listen to your decision on this matter.

I thought you were the expert. :) (I'm certainly not.)

I'll check it out and get back to you with a bug. Thanks!