apple trailers won't play when opened from apple.Com

So I quickly find out what was wrong.

Apple is restricting through the UserAgent access to the files on its server. ( Maybe it doesn't make enough money to pay the BW :-) )

So it's all explain here : http://www.hd-trailers.net/blog/2009/08/20/direct-download-links-from-apple-are-not-working/

The only solution I see, When Totem-mozilla launch in place of quicktime, it should maybe try to send a useragent corresponding to quicktime ?

This is not a firefox bug as posted already. The idea of having totme-* fix the problem (not real sure if we can) i dont know the license behind Quicktime but the package has been updated to correct one and we will let totem devs decide how to pursue this

The issue is a known jaunty one and fixed in karmic

Will this fix be backported?

not likely now, karmic beta is this week and efforts are focussed on that and there has been few request for a backport in 5 months for jaunty so it's not likely to be worked now

From reading this bug report I was under the impression that this was fixed in Karmic but from my experience this problem still exists in Karmic. The Apple trailers work with gecko-mediaplayer but completely fail with totem-mozilla! Why can't totem-mozilla play the trailers when gecko-mediaplayer can? I currently have a solution in place by using gecko-mediaplayer but would like to use Totem so here is hoping that this is resolved soon? I understand that this is not a "Totem" or "Ubuntu" bug per se but I also figure that is gecko-mediaplayer can make it work that totem-mozilla should be able to as well?

Thanks,
Gord

As noted in the previous comment, this is still valid for karmic.

Playing movie trailers from the Apple web site with totem-mozilla works fine here on Ubuntu 9.10 "Karmic Koala".

Uname: Linux 2.6.31-19-generic i686
Packages: totem 2.28.2-0ubuntu3
                  libgstreamer0.10-0 0.10.25-2
                  gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg 0.10.9-1
                  gstreamer0.10-plugins-good 0.10.16-1ubuntu3
                  gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad 0.10.14-4ubuntu1
                  gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly 0.10.12-1

Can you update (if necessary) and try again?

I have a freshly installed copy of Karmic along with all of the same
versions of software installed as listed below. When trying to play a
trailer (The Crazies) on the Apple Trailers site I get their
JavaScript window where the movie should be played but there is a
message there instead telling me to install quicktime.

Thanks,
Gord

On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 9:06 PM, madbiologist <email address hidden> wrote:
> Playing movie trailers from the Apple web site with totem-mozilla works
> fine here on Ubuntu 9.10 "Karmic Koala".
>
> Uname: Linux 2.6.31-19-generic i686
> Packages: totem 2.28.2-0ubuntu3
>                  libgstreamer0.10-0 0.10.25-2
>                  gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg 0.10.9-1
>                  gstreamer0.10-plugins-good 0.10.16-1ubuntu3
>                  gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad 0.10.14-4ubuntu1
>                  gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly 0.10.12-1
>
> Can you update (if necessary) and try again?
>
> --
> apple trailers won't play when opened from apple.Com
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/431817
> You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber
> of the bug.
>

It actually depends on the trailer you try.

in karmic , the user-agent trick made most of them work. But now Apple added onother check on reported QT version through javascript. however the Totem QT plugin is well made so it reports a recent version. So it should work ..

Here is one example that don't work and thus might check for plugin version http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/fox/theateam/

i really don't see why apple do all this crap detection ... ( a bit like france2.fr ..) Maybe they want to force windows user to install Ithunes even if they had for exemple a working plugin such as VLC.

I don't see why we should spend too much time debugging/mimicing their Quicktime/website crap ....

Rotten apple ...

the issue seems similar to https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=614127 and has been fixed upstream now

Any chance of getting this patch into Lucid's totem?

This bug was fixed in the package totem - 2.30.0-0ubuntu3

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totem (2.30.0-0ubuntu3) lucid; urgency=low

  * debian/patches/91_git_youtube_regex.patch:
    - git change to fix youtube video playing issues to website change
      (lp: #544660)
  * debian/patches/92_git_trailer_apple.patch:
    - git change to fix playing on the trailers.apple.com website
      (lp: #431817)
 -- Sebastien Bacher <email address hidden> Wed, 07 Apr 2010 00:39:37 +0200

Well, there is a problem. I don't know how this fix works, but quicktime.com still gives me ad for Quicktime instead of playing it after upgrading to 2.30.0-0ubuntu3. I can't see many reasons why Apple does it - they don't have and they don't plan to release Quicktime for Linux - but this is quite saddening and no Ubuntu or Gstreamer fault at all. Almost only reason I can think about that they have lot of "leecher" tools and different players connecting to site and trying playing trailers and overmaxing their resources, so they have to limit this access. Still, not very nice.

This bug was fixed in the package totem - 2.30.0git20100413-0ubuntu1

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totem (2.30.0git20100413-0ubuntu1) lucid; urgency=low

  * Updated to a git snapshot since 2.30.1 will be after the freeze for lucid:
    - Fix download buffering for non-fast start FLVs
    - Use GstTag library to translate subtitle languages
    - Fake QT user-agent for trailers.apple.com
    - Use giosrc natively when playing back from FTP
    - Fix position setting on session restore
    - Fix Eject menu item not being available for DVDs (lp: #387467)
    - Ensure the GDK windows we paint on are native ones
    - Split setting up and opening browser streams (lp: #289847)
    - Fixes plugin detection on the Apple trailers site.(lp: #431817)
    - Make seeking with the mouse behave the same as the main player
  * debian/control.in:
    - don't require iso-codes
  * debian/patches/02_lpi.patch,
    debian/patches/90_autotools.patch:
    - new version update
  * debian/patches/91_git_youtube_regex.patch,
    debian/patches/92_git_trailer_apple.patch:
    - the changes are in the new version
 -- Sebastien Bacher <email address hidden> Wed, 14 Apr 2010 12:35:45 +0200