Update FreeMind to 0.9.0 RC6

Sorry, here are the package listings for the 'unstable' and 'experimental' repositories:

http://eric.lavar.de/comp/linux/debian/unstable/
http://eric.lavar.de/comp/linux/debian/experimental/

Shouldn't this have an "upgrade" tag instead of "needs-packaging"?

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See also bug #154915

Have you tested the package? Does it build properly in a clean chroot? Does it install fine?

And why is this a beta, and do you consider it appropriate for an LTS release?

I have tested the packages in http://eric.lavar.de/comp/linux/debian/experimental/ and have experienced no bugs or errors.

I do not have the skills to build the package myself (in chroot), especially as it can run via a .sh script.

Why is it beta? It's been beta for over a year now, I think that's just how the programmer likes to mark his programs.

Do I consider it appropriate for LTS? More so than 0.7.1 which has been out for 4 years.

This version gives the user ability to export in SVG, SWF, PNG, JPEG, ODT, HTML, interactive HTML (using JavaScript) and so on, all of which are unavailable in 0.7.1. It removes the dependency on the older sun-java5-bin package and is internationalized in over 20 languages

I've attached the ChangeLog.txt, found as ./history.txt, since 0.7.1 which is currently in the repositories.

Could you file a wishlist in Debian? The maintainer said some months ago he would package 0.9.0 "soon", so maybe it's time for him to package it ;)
Also, it has an RC bug for a few months now, and it was removed from testing because of it.

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=436206

Sure, but EricL2 (the maintainer) posted this message at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Freemind:
"Hi, I am the package owner for FreeMind and Debian (FreeMind is not yet in Ubuntu), and I need to recommend checking the official FreeMind on Linux page, which contains much more details, FAQs and troubleshooting instructions - and is kept up-to-date by myself. Thanks! -- EricL2 2008-01-13 12:15:13"

I'll let you know how the wishlist goes.

Fix released?

All of the packages are still at 0.7.1 according to http://packages.debian.org/freemind

"Done" in Debian. According to the upstream/Debian bug it cannot get into Debian.
brettalton, do you mean we should import http://eric.lavar.de/comp/linux/debian/experimental/simplyhtml_0.9.0~beta9-1.dsc into Ubuntu?

Yes, if it is the latest deb to be created. I started the bug based on the latest on the FreeMind website, but I'd be happy with either, so long as version 9 is uploaded. There's too many new features to even post here...

I second this request.

I very very much second this request too... I never used a single "stable release" of freemind for years: the development cycle is - alas - very slow, with the beta staying such for months, if not years, but the quality of those is normally very good, and the bugs - if any major - are essentially in relation to the experimental features, and not to the legacy one.

Besides, in the repos the only comparable available software is Kdissert. Comparable means that people can compare the two, and FreeMind wins 100:1 against kdissert... without counting the annoyances of running a KDA app in a gnome environment.

Looking forward to the upgrade, then, and thanks to brettalton for having brought this up. FM is an awesome programme and aid for visual thinkers! :)

Desktop team, can you please take a look?

unsubscribing the desktop team there, you want to subscribe the sponsor teams rather

We have been using Freemind for years, mostly upgrading to latest beta as they make it available. While the packages are tagged beta, they're quite stable, and complete ( the 0.9.x beta's are really good )

When using the .dep file from the Freemind Site, I get a version 0.8.1. This is a stable version of the package, and I get no bugs. I may see what I can do to get us up to that point at least. The beta might not be best, but .8 might.

I simply would like to inform those interested in this topic, that - while we all wait for the packaging of the latest beta - the procedure to create binaries from the source is *really* easy. More or less it works like this:

1) Download the source and uncompress the file
2) Install ant [sudo apt-get install ant]
3) Move into the source code directory
3) Run "ant dist"
4) The newly created "freemind.sh" is the executable you need

I used the Sun Java 6 (installed via ubuntu-restricted-extras package)

Hope this can help somebody here. :)

0.9-RC1 of freemind is out.
In either case, 0.8.1 should be packaged for jaunty.

I would like to support the version 0.9 to be included to the repos. It has more features, less bugs and works faster.

Hi,

I'm the Eric L. who makes the upstream and Debian .deb packages.

FreeMind 0.9.0.RC1 was just uploaded to Debian and is waiting for approval in the NEW queue: http://ftp-master.debian.org/new.html (it went from contrib to main, that's why it's considered NEW).

Few notes:

1. let me know if I can make your life "side-porting" from Debian to Ubuntu easier.
2. you will need also to side-port libxsd2jibx-java.
3. beware that both xsd2jibx and FreeMind rely on version 1.0.x of libjibx-java, whereas Jaunty contains a 1.1.x version, which is (slightly) not backwards compatible. I didn't (yet) take the burden to upgrade and solve potential incompatibilities, but I'm interested in learning how you're doing it :-)

Eric L.

version 0.9.0-rc3 was released about a month ago. The Debian package for 0.8.1 has been out since last November:

https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=7118&package_id=161831&release_id=574421

Can we please get this application updated rather than continue to rely upon a 4 year old version that really is lacking in many features? My guess is that, given the accelerated rate of development that we're seeing compared to past years, 0.9.0 will certainly be out very soon. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see a 1.0 release before the end of the year.

Thank you, all.

I second the upgrade request. The RC (since the first beta) is quite stable.

Igor Gomes

Thirded, fourthed, wthatever.

Bug?

Freemind crashes at start up while it is initialising. it asks me whether i would like to overwrite the old pattern file or not, but I can't click on yes or no.

Pieter

I've adapted the debian package for Freemind 0.8.1 to work on Ubuntu Jaunty and it is in my PPA. Details on my blog at: http://www.greenhughes.com/content/freemind-081-available-my-new-repository or go directly to my PPA at: https://launchpad.net/~liamgh/+archive/ppa.

Pieter,

read this thread for the problem you've run into.
http://sourceforge.net/forum/message.php?msg_id=6735226

Will a newer version make it into Karmic? The current one in repos is quite old.

Big fan of Freemind. Would love to see it in the repos. Development of the project is slow but progressing. Using the 0.9 RC1 package from Eric L.'s repository. Works fine. No trouble when it migrated from the 0.8.x package (forgot which one I was on..)

RC4 is available!

I've made the packaging following the REVU orientations. Its for Jaunty, I can make the karmic one if needed.

Its in my ppa: https://launchpad.net/~igorgomes/+archive/ppa

How to propose it to http://revu.ubuntuwire.com? I didn't find the instructions.

Build log:

http://launchpadlibrarian.net/32070459/buildlog_ubuntu-jaunty-i386.freemind_0.9.0RC4-0ubuntu1_FULLYBUILT.txt.gz

Best,

Igor Gomes

@ Igor: REVU is the wrong address for your work, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SponsorshipProcess

BTW is set the status on "in progress" as there is still no official universe package

There's a minor problem at the moment. I can't retrieve your key:

jim@jim-eee:~$ sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys
69740D37
[sudo] password for jim:
Executing: gpg --ignore-time-conflict --no-options --no-default-keyring
--secret-keyring /etc/apt/secring.gpg --trustdb-name/etc/apt/trustdb.gpg
--keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys
69740D37
gpg: requesting key 69740D37 from hkp server keyserver.ubuntu.com
gpg: keyserver timed out
gpg: keyserver receive failed: keyserver error
jim@jim-eee:~$ sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys
69740D37
Executing: gpg --ignore-time-conflict --no-options --no-default-keyring
--secret-keyring /etc/apt/secring.gpg --trustdb-name/etc/apt/trustdb.gpg
--keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys
69740D37
gpg: requesting key 69740D37 from hkp server keyserver.ubuntu.com
gpg: keyserver timed out
gpg: keyserver receive failed: keyserver error
jim@jim-eee:~$

On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 9:24 AM, Igor Gomes <email address hidden> wrote:

>
> I've made the packaging following the REVU orientations. Its for Jaunty, I
> can make the karmic one if needed.
>
> Its in my ppa: https://launchpad.net/~igorgomes/+archive/ppa<https://launchpad.net/%7Eigorgomes/+archive/ppa>
>
> How to propose it to http://revu.ubuntuwire.com? I didn't find the
> instructions.
>
> Build log:
>
> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/32070459/buildlog_ubuntu-
> jaunty-i386.freemind_0.9.0RC4-0ubuntu1_FULLYBUILT.txt.gz<http://launchpadlibrarian.net/32070459/buildlog_ubuntu-%0Ajaunty-i386.freemind_0.9.0RC4-0ubuntu1_FULLYBUILT.txt.gz>
>
> Best,
>
> Igor Gomes
>
> ** Changed in: freemind (Ubuntu)
> Status: Triaged => Fix Committed
>
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> Update FreeMind to 0.9.0 RC4
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/182927
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> of the bug.
>

Seems that the keyserver is down. Just wait for a while and try again.

Or you can download the packge directly:

https://launchpad.net/~igorgomes/+archive/ppa/+files/freemind_0.9.0RC4-0ubuntu1_all.deb

Igor Gomes

Just letting people know that I've found packages for Freemind in the following PPAs:

https://edge.launchpad.net/~khashayar/+archive/builder/+packages (latest is 0.9.0-rc4)
https://edge.launchpad.net/~igorgomes/+archive/ppa/+packages (latest is 0.9.0-rc6)
https://edge.launchpad.net/~liamgh/+archive/ppa/+packages (latest is 0.8.1)

Some of the owners of these PPAs are actually subscribed to this list...

I've love to help packaging this application, but I haven't heard a reply from the motu-mentor list.

I've tried the approval, but the requirements are a huge barrier. There are many "jars" inside the original Freemind and they need to be packaged separately. This is too hard because demands research, guessing etc...

The latest version is on my ppa. Fell free to use it.

Best,

Igor Gomes

Hello,

FreeMind 0.9.0_RC6 has been (properly) packaged and can be pulled from:

    deb http://eric.lavar.de/comp/linux/debian/ experimental

(see the Freemind wiki [1] for more details)

Let me know how it works, the package has only been tested on Debian/sid, I'm interested in your experience with Ubuntu and if you find stuff that makes the package not fit for Ubuntu.

Cheers, Eric

PS: I hope to get this version of FreeMind officially into Debian. Cross fingers!

[1] http://freemind.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/FreeMind_on_Linux

Eric L., I have been using your repo on my ubuntu installs for some time now. I find that it generally works great with generally comparable performance to the Windows version. A couple of areas where it could be improved is in the application menu (Karmic w Gnome 2.28.1) it does not have an icon nor do the *.mm data files. Also Gnome seems to think the *.mm files are "Troff MM input documents" (whatever those are). I have tried monkeying with the Gnome file associations to fix it, but I couldn't get it to work in the attempt I made a month or so ago...

Anyhow, thanks for providing the repo and good look getting it in Debian! That would be huge as it would certainly smooth the way into Ubuntu I would think.

Eric L., I tried to upgrade on Karmic 64bit, and also 32bit, firstly I need to change the source row to:
deb http://eric.lavar.de/comp/linux/debian/ experimental/
otherwise (without slash at the end) it was not accepted.

I tried to find the key I can import for your repository, do you have same?

program itself refuses to start it writes:
The pattern file format has changed and it seems, that your pattern file '/home/../.freemind/patters.xml' is formated in the old way. Should I try to repair the pattern file.....?
with 'yes' and 'no' options.
The file does not exists when this dialog is displayed. Ragardles what I choose I get 2nd dialog with Mode not available: MindMap with OK, and then 3rd dialog with freemind.main.FreeMind can't be started.
after that file '/home/../.freemind/patters.xml' is created and has the same content as /etc/freemind/patterns.xml.

I also tried to purge the package and reinstall without help.
my default lang is LANG=cs_CZ.UTF-8, but attached log is grabbed with LANG=C

@Radek: thanks for the feedback.

Here for the resolution:

The problem was with libjibx-java being version 1.1.x under Ubuntu J, K & L (instead of 1.0.x under Debian, and former versions of Ubuntu). For these distributions, please use the repository:

    deb http://eric.lavar.de/comp/linux/debian/ ubuntu/

I didn't test explicitly with Ubuntu, but it should work... As always, let me know if not.

Side note: I don't have a key for my repositories, it's mostly a reason of lazyness, if someone shows me a simple HOWTO, I'll do my best to fix this... :-^

@Tim: regarding integration within Gnome, do you see an improvement after having called "sudo update-mime-database /usr/share/mime", after installation of the current packages?

Eric

Solved!

I removed freemind with synaptic and reinstalled using repository:

deb http://eric.lavar.de/comp/linux/debian/ ubuntu/

Thanks Eric

@Eric L., update-mine-database did not have any effect that I could see...

updating on karmic from the 0.8.x version to Eric's RC6 package seems to have gone very well.

May I ask what happened to the freemind-plugins-time package?

@Eric L.:

I am running Ubuntu 9.10 x64. I had the same problem as Radek (#38) when using the repository:
  deb http://eric.lavar.de/comp/linux/debian/ experimental/
When I added the repository:
  deb http://eric.lavar.de/comp/linux/debian/ ubuntu/
and updated to "freemind-0.9.0~rc6+dfsg-1ubuntu0", the problem went away and FreeMind seems to be running fine.

I also the same ".mm" files "Troff" association as Tim (#37). Running:
  sudo update-mime-database /usr/share/mime
created the mapping for me. The ".mm" files now identify as "FreeMind Map", and double clicking from Nautilus opens the file successfully in FreeMind.

Thanks for your work. There are no more outstanding issues for me with your FreeMind 0.9.0 RC6 package using the above setup and changes.

Subscribers to this bug might also be interested in "Xmind" - similar tool to FreeMind:

packaging request: https://bugs.launchpad.net/debian/+bug/349464
about: http://www.downloadsquad.com/2009/12/14/xmind-free-open-source-desktop-mind-mapping-software/
.deb download http://www.xmind.net/downloads/

I don't see any action for ubuntu-universe-sponsors to take. Is there a particular version of the package that should be uploaded? I see the packages at <http://eric.lavar.de/comp/linux/debian/>, but it doesn't sound like they've been specifically built for Lucid. They should be built on Lucid, ideally in a PPA, before uploading to Ubuntu proper.

Please subscribe u-u-s when there's a specific action for them.

Evan, what a lame comment!

People have been posting left and right that they rebuilt the packages in their PPA or elsewhere. If there is no immediately obvious candidate at the moment that is only because sponsorship has been dragging on so long without anything ever happening. I'm currently rebuilding RC6 in my PPA (something which I think can be reasonably expected of a sponsorr to do himself, too), please take a look in a few hours. If you didn't feel like doing that you could have searched through the PPAs with https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas?name_filter=freemind and you would have immediately stumbled across Igor Gomes' PPA (https://launchpad.net/~igorgomes/+archive/ppa/+packages) which already has an appropriate package it seems. And if even that would have been too much to ask from a sponsor, then I think a normal comment of "what is the status quo, what is there to do?" would have gotten a quick response, I'm sure.

The single-minded pursuit of "get it off my radar" instead of actually fixing issues and improving Ubuntu isn't helping anyone. In that sense, I kindly ask for a little more effort next time from you, Evan, to make sure you are actually deserving of your newly acquired sponsor powers. Thank you for your contribution.

Resubscribed sponsors.

BTW, the Ubuntu package used to have a delta towards Debian. I don't have time to look through it right now, but I'd appreciate if one of the many people interested in this package were to take a quick glance to make sure there is nothing in there that is still relevant for RC6.

Wow, dude. Chill out. I realize the "get it off my radar" may be annoying for the bug that I'm taking off my radar, but that's not the point. I spent 15 minutes looking at this bug, reading through the comments, and trying to figure out why u-u-s had been subscribed. When I leave u-u-s subscribed, I make any other sponsor looking at the queue go through the same process. It makes it harder for anybody to do sponsorship.

And I /did/ go look through PPAs. I found that none of the versions in PPAs were ready to be uploaded. Igor had the most recent release, but it completely dropped the old changelog, which is why I assumed I was missing the version that was ready to be uploaded.

So once again, I'm unsubscribing ubuntu-universe-sponsors until there's a package ready for sponsorship.

Oh, sorry Rolf - I didn't see the mention that you were uploading the new RC6. I'm taking a look at that now.

Uh, first off, since this is a merge, not a sync, you should leave the old Ubuntu-specific changelog entries in the changelog, interleaved with the Debian changelog. (i.e. in sorted order).

I'm assuming you took this package from <http://eric.lavar.de/comp/linux/debian/>, since it's not in Debian? Do you know why this package hasn't been uploaded to Debian, since this guy appears to be the maintainer?

If we're pulling from somewhere that's not Debian, the package should have a -0ubuntu1 version number, I think, which would also mean that XSBC-Original-Maintainer should be set.

I'm not entirely sure how pulling a package with its own history from not-Debian works, though. I'll go ahead and re-sub u-u-s in the hopes that somebody else has a better idea.

Sponsors: Look at the package in <https://launchpad.net/~r0lf/+archive/ppa/+packages>

@Evan: the package is not _yet_ in Debian because I'm the maintainer but no Debian Developer (DD) and my sponsor seems to be a bit under water (he already accepted the package, and promised to take care of it, but it seems to take a bit more time than usual).
I can understand that someone is busy just before Christmas, so I'll ping him again at the beginning of next year.

BTW, I already wrote it, I think, but if someone sees changes I should do to my package to make it more Ubuntu like without breaking the Debian rules/policy, I'd be happy to do it.

Eric

I unsubscribed ubuntu-universe-sponsors and marked it as invalid. Here my reason: The bug report is very long. As sponsor it needs a long time to read through it. To get an updated package two steps are needed.

1. The package from Eric should be uploaded to Debian. I pinged my Debian sponsor. So maybe he will upload it sooner.

2. The Debian package needs to be synced or merged to Ubuntu. Please open a new bug report for that once the package enters Debian.

Hello,

good news for the new year: Debian has accepted RC6!

See http://packages.debian.org/sid/freemind

Who is supposed to create the new bug report as requested by Benjamin?

Eric

A new bug report is not required any more, because I did the merge.

This bug was fixed in the package freemind - 0.9.0~rc6+dfsg-1ubuntu1

---------------
freemind (0.9.0~rc6+dfsg-1ubuntu1) lucid; urgency=low

  * Merge from Debian unstable (LP: #182927), remaining changes:
    - debian/copyright: add license/copyright for
      freemind/freemind/main/ExampleFileFilter.java
 -- Benjamin Drung <email address hidden> Sun, 03 Jan 2010 14:19:19 +0100

Please backport also for the current karmic branch.

@H.-Dirk: Please follow the guideline on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports for requesting a backport.

@Benjamin: done https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/freemind/+bug/506684

@Eric L: Freemind 0.9.0 has been released, if you are interested in updating your Debian package to a stable version.

@David, yep, I'm starting working on it!

Hello,

I've finished the packaging and my first tests are positive.

Before I officially release the packages, I would appreciate if someone could check that it works. New source line is as follows:

deb http://eric.lavar.de/comp/linux/debrepo/ squeeze freemind

(squeeze can be replaced with sid if you prefer)

I didn't test but it should work as well under Ubuntu (I'm seeking feedback here).

Cheers, Eric

@Eric L: Awesome, thanks for your continuing work in making Freemind accessible to debian users, I personally appreciate your work very much, it makes my life much easier.

I have just tried adding that line to /etc/apt/sources.list and running apt-get update, I get this output:
W: GPG error: http://eric.lavar.de sid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 27CD3F36869D2871
W: Failed to fetch http://eric.lavar.de/comp/linux/debrepo/dists/sid/freemind/binary-amd64/Packages.gz 404 Not Found

From looking at the server, I'm guessing this is because you only publish i386 files. Can I help to test if the i386 debs will install and run on 64bit somehow? I'm happy to lend a hand if I can.

Ups, sorry, actually 2 mistakes:
1. you need to install my public key to avoid the warning, see http://eric.lavar.de/comp/linux/debrepo/
2. I've fixed the problem with the architectures (I misunderstood how 'all' packages are handled).
It should now be fine but let me know.

Awesome, I was able to upgrade freemind and all seems well. :-)

I tried freeplane, curious to compare, and I get this error:
 Depends: libknopflerfish-osgi-framework-java but it is not installable

Not strictly related to this bug though. Happy to follow that up somewhere else if that would be more appropriate.

@EricL,

On my Ubuntu/Maverick, I added the repo you made available and it upgraded
without issue. :)

One note, I could get your key to import with the wget command that was on
your website.

The after it download the key it said:

> 2011-03-03 14:33:50 (3.17 MB/s) - written to stdout [1686/1686]
>
>
>> gpg: no writable keyring found: eof
>
> gpg: error reading `-': general error
>
> gpg: import from `-' failed: general error
>
>
> Maybe because I was on Ubuntu... Anyhow, I just wget'ed it to my desktop
and manually imported with synaptic.

Thanks!

On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 11:09 AM, Callum Macdonald <<email address hidden>
> wrote:

> Awesome, I was able to upgrade freemind and all seems well. :-)
>
> I tried freeplane, curious to compare, and I get this error:
> Depends: libknopflerfish-osgi-framework-java but it is not installable
>
> Not strictly related to this bug though. Happy to follow that up
> somewhere else if that would be more appropriate.
>
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@Eric: I also had issues with the gpg key. In the end, what worked for me was prepending the import command with sudo. However, now, if I re-run the command, it seems to work fine just as it's written on your debrepo page. Strange. Not sure what to suggest.

I was able to successfully upgrade freemind on Ubuntu 10.04 64bit with your repo changes. Thanks again.